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If Not Us, Then Who?

August 18, 2010  |  Leadership  |  View Comments

One of my highlights of last week was being in Wisconsin and trying fried pickles for the first time. Man, were they delicious! I’m still thinking about the fun time I had exploring downtown Milwaukee with my friend Ian Bautista, President of United Neighborhood Centers of America and his beautiful family. There’s so much amazing green space there, a major departure from the concrete jungle that is Washington, DC.

I had the privilege of being in Milwaukee to work with Public Allies during their National Gathering. Several dozen Public Allies’ staff from around the country were in attendance for a week of fellowship, learning and leadership development. Now there are a lot of great organizations out there, but I gotta tell you, Public Allies is the real deal. From the moment I walked into the room, the energy, passion and commitment of the staff was overwhelming. They are truly leaders helping leaders.

I gave a keynote outlining ideas for new leadership for a new nonprofit sector where I talked a lot about the four kinds of leaders I think we need now in order to effect social change.

  1. True Believers
  2. Ruthless Innovators
  3. Ambassadors of Diversity
  4. Courageous Advocates

I also presented a couple of workshops on leadership and Generation Y. During each of these sessions, there was a recurring theme: personal responsibility.

We acknowledged the challenges we face in the nonprofit sector – as employees, volunteers, consultants and supporters of our individual causes as well as the sector as a whole. We talked about how the lack of funding can hinder the growth of essential leadership development programs. We talked about the tensions between generations in the nonprofit workplace. We talked about the doom and gloom because we’re realists. But we also had some powerful conversations about the roles that each of us can (and do) play in organizations.

The current state of nonprofit leadership doesn’t have to be resigned to the status quo. This is not “just how it is.” We can change the nature of nonprofit culture because we are nonprofit culture. The nonprofit “sector” is made up of individual organizations, which are made up of individual people, which means that this is all up to us. It is what we make it to be. So, when are we going to start being the change we say we wish to see?

And if not us, then who? Who?



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The New Thurman Consulting, a Blue Lightbulb and Why You Should Totally Hire Us

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I’m gonna tell you what’s been going on with Thurman Consulting, but first, let me tell you about the lightbulb. I went over to 99 Designs looking for a company logo that said, in no particular order: fresh, new, ideas, change. I fell in love with this blue lightbulb not only because it looks hella cool, but also because it represents what I want to do with all of my clients: give them “aha” moments. In all my speaking, training, coaching and consulting, I want people who come hear me or ask me for advice to go away feeling empowered. I want them to leave the room knowing more, feeling more and being more themselves than they were before.

Fresh. New. Ideas. Change.

Lightbulb.

Aha.

The New Thurman Consulting

Since quitting my job and launching my business seven months ago, I’ve had the opportunity to work with some amazing organizations and be a part of some really cool projects that align with my personal mission. I’ve also had the pleasure of working with several talented colleagues and seeing them break into the consulting world as well. So it was a win/win when I asked them to come on board to work with Thurman Consulting, and they said yes!

Meet our amazingly talented team.

Our Awesome Services, or Why You Should Totally Hire Us

For the past three years, I’ve mainly offered speaking and training services for organizations working for social change. Now, I’m excited to announce that with my newly expanded team, Thurman Consulting will be offering additional services, many of which my readers have been asking about over the last couple of years.

Here’s a brief rundown of our new and improved menu of services:

Nonprofit Career Coaching

We offer career coaching in 1/2 hour and one hour increments as well as targeted job search coaching including resume review and interview preparation.  We also make it easy for you to order your sessions online. As soon as you place your order, we contact you to schedule a session at your convenience.

Speaking & Workshops

We offer speaking services including keynotes, workshops, breakouts and panels. We have a listing of frequently requested topics on leadership, diversity and social media that you can choose from or allow us to customize something for your next conference, workshop or annual meeting.

Social Media Consulting

Requests for this service have gone way up in the past year. Our expert team can tell you exactly how to get started on social media and offer practical advice to assist your organization with strategy as well as implementation. We also offer live blogging and  tweeting as well as blog coaching.

Training Services

Thanks to the wealth of expertise within our team, we offer social media training as well as advocacy training that can be customized to your specific organization.

I’m so excited to be working with such a talented team! I hope you will call on us to provide high-quality speakingtrainingcoaching and consulting services, whether you are a nonprofit professional in need of coaching or an organization in need of training. I invite you to contact us to learn more about how we can help you advance your work.



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36 Facts About Generation Y in the Workplace and Beyond

July 27, 2010  |  Generation Y  |  View Comments

More and more attention is starting to be paid to the working and spending habits of the biggest generation since the Baby Boomers: Generation Y. With all the potential of a new and hopefully more engaged workforce, it’s important to stay informed about who researchers say “are on track to become the most educated generation in American history.”

Here are a few things you may already know about Generation Y:

  • Also known as “Millennials”
  • Born 1980 to 2000
  • 80 million strong
  • Grew up with school shootings, 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, Iraq
  • Plagued with high levels of student debt
  • Proficient with technology, often called “Digital Natives”
  • Personality characteristics: confident, social, celebrate diversity, collaborative

But let’s dig a little deeper, shall we? Here are 36 facts of note (all based on research) about Generation Y. My generation.

Note: As I have said before, these generational characteristics are highly generalized and do not fully take into account variations based on race and class. Nonetheless, they do provide a useful framework in which to understand Millennials as a whole. A good companion piece for compare and contrast would be Pew Hispanic Center’s 2009 report, “Between Two Worlds: How Young Latinos Come of Age in America.”

Racial Makeup

1. Generation Y is more ethnically and racially diverse than older generations, with people of color making up about 40% of our population.
2.Half of all young people of color are Hispanic.

Source: Pew Research Center 2010 report, Millennials: A Portrait of Generation Next

Education

3. About 40% of all young adults ages 18 to 24 were enrolled in either a two- or four-year college in October 2008.
4. So far, 1 in 5 Millennials are college graduates. An additional 26% are currently in school and plan to graduate from college, while an additional 30% are not in school but expect to someday earn a college degree.
5. Younger whites are about twice as likely as blacks or Hispanics to have finished college (22% vs. 10% for both blacks and Latinos). But blacks are significantly more likely than whites or Hispanics to say they want to earn a college diploma.

Source: Pew Research Center 2010 report, Millennials: A Portrait of Generation Next

Work Ethic

6. About 37% of 18- to 29-year-olds have been underemployed or out of work during the recession, the highest share among the age group in more than 30 years.
7. Nearly 2/3 of all Millennials have full- or part-time jobs.
8. 13% of all Millennials are students who do not work for pay.
9. Almost 6 in 10 employed Millennials say they already have switched careers at least once.
10. About 60% of younger workers say it is not very likely or not likely at all that they will stay with their current employers for the remainder of their working life. (In contrast, 62% of Generation X workers say it’s likely they will never leave their current employer while 84% of Baby Boomers expect to remain with their current employer for the rest of their working life.)
11. Only 1/3 of Millennials say their current job is their career.

Source: Pew Research Center 2010 report, Millennials: A Portrait of Generation Next

Debt & Financial Outlook

12. 36% of all Millennials depend on financial support from their families, including 14% of all young adults who are working full time. [1]
13. More than one in three young workers say they are currently living at home with their parents. [2]
14. 31% of young workers are uninsured. [2]
15. One-third of young workers cannot pay their bills. [2]
16. 7 in 10 young workers do not have enough saved to cover two months of living expenses. [2]
17. Roughly half of households headed by someone under 35 carry a credit card balance. [3]
18. 41% of younger households have auto loans. [3]
19. In 2008, 67% of students graduating from four-year colleges and universities had student loan debt. [4]
20. Average debt levels for graduating seniors with student loans rose to $23,200 in 2008. [4]
21. Only 58% of Millennials pay their monthly bills on time. [5]
22. 60% of workers 20 to 29 years old cashed out their 401(k) retirement plans — typically a big financial no-no because such a move squanders retirement assets and forces the recipient to pay a tax penalty — when they changed or lost jobs. [5]
23. On average, Generation Yers each have more than three credit cards, and 20% carry a balance of more than $10,000. [5]

Sources: [1] Pew Research Center 2010 report, Millennials: A Portrait of Generation Next [2] AFL-CIO 2009 report, “Young Workers: A Lost Decade” [3]  Demos 2010 report, “Risking Our Future Middle Class” [4] Project on Student Debt, Quick Facts January 2010 [5] USA Today April 2010 article, “Generation Y’s steep financial hurdles: Huge debt, no savings”

Technology & Online Habits

24. 93% of teens ages 12-17 go online, as do 93% of young adults ages 18-29. [1]
25. 75% of Millennials have created a profile on a social networking site. [1]
26. 1 in every 5 Millennials have posted a video of themselves online. [1]
27. 41% of Millennials use only a cell phone and have no landline. [1]
28. Over half of YouTube’s users are under 20 years old. [2]
29. 53% of the total blogging population is 21-35 years old. [3]

Sources: [1] Pew Research Center 2010 report, Millennials: A Portrait of Generation Next [2] YouTube via Danny Brown [3] Sysomos 2010 report via Mashable

Lifestyle, Civic Engagement, Family

30. Almost 40% of all Millennials have a tattoo (about half of those with tattoos have two to five tattoos and 18% have six or more). 70% say their tattoos are hidden beneath clothing.
31. 1 in 4 Millennials are unaffiliated with any religion.
32. In 2008, 66% of Millennials voted for Barack Obama for president, compared with 50% of those 30 and older, the largest disparity between younger and older voters in 40 years.
33. Just 2% of Generation Y males are military veterans. (At a comparable stage of their life cycle, 6% of Gen Xer men, 13% of Baby Boomer men and 24% of Silent Generation men were veterans.)
34. 61% of Millennials grew up in a two-parent household, a smaller percentage than the three previous generations.
35. 21% of Millennials are married (half the percentage of their parents’ generation at the same ages).
36. 34% of Millennials are parents.

Source: Pew Research Center 2010 report, Millennials: A Portrait of Generation Next



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July 26: Join Alexis Terry, Anh Tran & Erin O’Connor Jones for a Discussion on the Importance of Board Leadership for Young Nonprofit Professionals

This Monday, July 26, I invite you to tune in on your lunch break to my internet radio show, All Nonprofits Considered on BlogTalkRadio! Join me for a live discussion with Alexis Terry of ASAE & The Center for Association Leadership, Gen Y Nonprofit Blogger Anh Phuong Tran, and Erin O’Connor Jones, a consultant with the Nonprofit Professional Advisory Group and career advisor for the Jobs for Change blog on Change.org as they offer insight and information and talk about the benefits of board leadership experience for young nonprofit professionals. Remember, this will be the last show of the summer; All Nonprofits Considered will return the first week of September, Monday the 6th.  Don’t miss it!

July 26, 12:00-1:00pm EST
Alexis Terry, Anh Tran & Erin O’Connor Jones Discuss the Importance of Board Leadership for Young Nonprofit Professionals

Alexis Terry is director of diversity and inclusion at ASAE & The Center for Association Leadership in Washington, DC. In this role, she works with staff and volunteer leaders to advance diversity and foster a more inclusive association community. In addition, Alexis serves as the senior staff liaison for ASAE & The Center’s Diversity Committee. Prior to joining ASAE & The Center, Alexis held a variety of roles at BoardSource, a national nonprofit dedicated to advancing the public good by building exceptional nonprofit boards and inspiring board service. In 2005, Alexis worked as a Consulting and Training Associate to engage nonprofit boards in the many educational programs and benefits the organization offers. For four years she generated revenue and cultivated and managed relationships with national nonprofits, foundations, associations, and corporations.

Alexis is the author of BoardSource’s 2008 Next Generation and Governance Findings Report and served as project manager of BoardSource’s Diversity and Next Generation Initiative, a multiyear program designed to reach and prepare diverse, next generation leaders for board service. In this role, Alexis led an internal taskforce through the creation of a three-year operational plan for this initiative, which included a goal of advancing BoardSource’s commitment to becoming a model organization on diversity and inclusion. She also worked with a team to launch Board Life Matters (www.boardlifematters.org), which is the first national blog designed to reach and inspire the next generation of nonprofit board leaders.

Alexis graduated from Pepperdine University with a bachelor’s degree in Communication and holds a certificate in Nonprofit Management.  She is pursuing an Executive Certificate in Diversity Strategy from Georgetown University. Alexis is a Steering Committee Member of the Next Generation Leadership Forum with American Humanics and an Advisory Committee member to the board of the DC chapter of Young Nonprofit Professional Network (YNPN).

Anh Phuong Tran is the Empowerment Manager at IMPACT Silver Spring in Silver Spring, MD. In her current position, Anh directs several empowerment programs to build community assets, including microenterprises and workforce efforts for diverse immigrants and low-income residents. She is devoted to a career in public service, having served as an AmeriCorps director, and member, previously teaching math and science in Los Angeles with Teach For America. She is a writing coach with the University of Maryland, University College for the graduate program in management. In her free time, Anh enjoys practicing yoga and cooking 30-minute meals. She currently serves on the board of the Young Nonprofit Professionals Network, DC chapter, the Maryland Vietnamese Mutual Association, and recently joined the board of LEAP (Leadership Education for Asian Pacifics ). Anh graduated from UC Berkeley with a BA in Economics and Mass Communications and a minor in Education.

Erin O’Connor Jones manages a portfolio of nonprofit searches and oversees candidate consulting services on behalf of nonprofit job seekers currently in or new to the sector at Nonprofit Professionals Advisory Group, a niche consulting firm. Throughout her nearly 20 years career leading and managing large and small entrepreneurial nonprofits, Erin has been committed to mentoring candidates from resume writing to final negotiations in their nonprofit job search. She works directly with job seekers, including those transitioning from the private sector, to understand the distinct language and complexity of the nonprofit world. In addition, Erin is featured as one of five career advisors at www.change.org, where she leads their Jobs for Change.org sector switcher blog. Prior to joining NPAG, Erin served as the Executive Director of the Family-to-Family Project, a Boston-based agency committed to ending family homelessness. She was formerly the Vice President of Communications and Business Development at Youth Alternatives, a statewide child welfare and mental health agency based in Portland, Maine, and was the Director of Program Development and Evaluation at the Home for Little Wanderers in Boston. Her diverse background includes management, mentoring, program development, communications and fundraising in the areas of child welfare, mental health, homelessness and housing. Erin earned her Master’s of Public Administration from Suffolk University and her Bachelor of Arts in Political Science from Keene State College. She also holds a Graduate Certificate in Public Policy from Boston College’s Program for Women in Politics and Government, now a program of the McCormack Institute, University of Massachusetts Boston.

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50 Young Nonprofit Influencers You Should Be Following on Twitter

Ever since I was acknowledged as one of the Top 25 Online Influencers in Leadership, I’ve been thinking a lot about leadership, personal branding and online influence as it relates to Generation Y, Generation X, and young professionals in general. One of my dear readers emailed me over the weekend to say it was wonderful “to not only see a person of color, but a young person of color” on the list. I’m glad she said it because I was thinking the same thing. I was thinking about how the web levels the playing field in any niche, regardless of age.

Especially on Twitter.

Here I am again, #14 on this list of the 25 most influential nonprofit tweeters, ranked by WeFollow. And while it’s great to be able to measure online influence in these two very concrete ways, my focus is on a different kind of ROI.

The return on online impact. Sure, the more visible I am, the more opportunities I have to get hired and make money. More important to me, though is that I’m better able to use my voice to bring attention to issues that I care about, like racial justice and career empowerment for young people. Best of all, I’m able to showcase the stories of so many other unsung leaders working for social change.

While I may be one of the most visible in the online space, there are many other young nonprofit leaders and social change agents out there on the Internetz that are not only leading the way to make the world a better place, but influencing others to do the same. They are the rockstars of today and tomorrow. Follow them. Follow us. We’re going places. And trust me, you want to come with.

50 Young Nonprofit Influencers You Should Be Following on Twitter

Here’s the full list in a handy dandy format that you can auto-follow simply by clicking “select all” at the top and then entering your Twitter name at the bottom.

P.S. I spent a lot of time compiling this list, so please do me a favor and spread it far and wide. Thank you. And you’re welcome.

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Diversity is the Wrong Word

July 13, 2010  |  Diversity, Leaders of Color, Race  |  View Comments

This morning, I moderated a panel called “Rising Through the Ranks: Race & Gender in Nonprofit Leadership.” The discussion was a joint event between the Nonprofit Roundtable and YNPNdc geared toward emerging leaders in philanthropy and nonprofits.

The conversation opened with Kelly Reid from the National MultiCultural Institute sharing some of the statistics in the Urban Institute’s recent report,  Measuring Racial-Ethnic Diversity in the Baltimore-Washington Region’s Nonprofit Sector. We were joined by a racially and gender diverse panel, including:

Each panelist shared a story about how their leadership experiences in the nonprofit sector have been affected by race and/or gender. It was an amazing discussion and I wish you had been there.

One Really Important Thing that stuck out for me during the conversation was this:

Diversity is very often the wrong word to use when we’re talking about efforts to bring in more people of color or LGBT or men or women into our organizations. We have to get increasingly more specific about what we mean when we say diversity, because we all think something different in our minds when the term is used.

In my case, what I’m usually talking about on my blog is racial justice.

The Applied Research Center defines racial justice this way:

We define racial justice as the proactive reinforcement of policies, practices, attitudes and actions that produce equitable power, opportunities, treatment, impacts and outcomes for all.

I’m talking about inclusion and equality and I’m talking about power. Which is far more complex and involved than diversity. It goes beyond “diversity workshops” and “sensitivity training” and reaches into sector reform, advocacy and policy change.

What many of us do goes way beyond diversity as a blanket concept. But in nonprofit circles, diversity seems to be a much more accessible word for the conversation.

Or is it?



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Weekend Reading: Professional Development Tips, Social Media Tasks for Interns and the Best Tweet Ever

  • Sad that I missed this week’s #ynpchat about professional development, but my girl Allison Jones sums up the conversation pretty nicely, including a discussion about the utility of advanced degrees and where to find opportunities.
  • Did you miss my last radio show? I talked to two passionate nonprofit leaders about that crazy new Florida law that’s basically spells disaster for diversity in philanthropy.
  • This weekend, two civil rights groups – the National Council of La Raza and the NAACP – are holding important meetings to talk about issues facing people of color, including the economy. At the same time. In different parts of the country. The logical part of me wonders if their efforts wouldn’t be more powerful if done together. Black and brown, together we stand?
  • Should nonprofit professionals be expected to make a financial donation to their own employerBrigid Slipka says yes.
  • Um, wow. This observation on volunteerism from Do Something just might be the best.tweet.ever.
  • Is Generation Y headed for a social media hangover? I’m gonna go with no.
  • In the meantime, here are 10 meaningful social media tasks for your summer intern. Or any intern for that matter.



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Jamaica Bound, Guest Bloggers Wanted and Some Stuff for You to Read While I’m Gone

July 1, 2010  |  Leadership, Social Media  |  View Comments

Today I’m headed to Jamaica for a week of fun in the sun! I’ve been looking forward to this time to rest and recharge after a really busy six months of hustlin’ to get my consulting business off the ground. I can already feel the sand in my toes in Montego Bay. I’m also taking a social media fast during my vacation, so you won’t see me blogging, Tweeting or Facebooking until I get back. What I will be doing is drinking Appleton rum and eating as much jerk chicken as my stomach can hold. And getting through a few books that I just haven’t found time to finish yet.

What I’ll Be Reading in Jamaica

Here are the books I’m taking to the Jamaica with me. Not your typical beach reads, I know, but what better time than vacation to get my read on?

You should read them, too. I’ll likely be doing a series of posts on each sometime soon, in particular how some of the same themes show up in each book.

Some Stuff for You to Read While I’m Gone

To tide you over in the meantime, here are a few of my most popular posts from the past six months. Catch up on what you missed!

I’m Looking for Guest Bloggers

I’d love to feature more of your thoughts, expertise and experiences here on my blog! So I’m opening submissions up for guest posts on topics related to leadership, diversity and nonprofit careers. A few more guidelines:

  • Posts should be no more than 500 words in length, with a brief bio and your photo to run with the post. Please send completed articles (as attachments in Word with embedded hyperlinks, if you have them) directly to Chelsea Hick at: info (at) rosettathurman (dot) com. We reserve the right to make minor edits.
  • Posts should be on a topic related to leadership, diversity or nonprofit careers and be useful/interesting/informative for my readership, which is largely made up of current nonprofit and philanthropy leaders under 40.

One More Thing

I’ve got a bunch of good stuff coming your way when I get back, so you should probably go on ahead and subscribe to my blog while I’m gone. You won’t wanna miss a thing, trust me.

It would be awesome if we could connect on Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn,  too:

Oh, and you should definitely subscribe to Homeplace, my monthly leadership e-mag. The June issue talks about how to deal with mistakes in the nonprofit workplace. When you subscribe, you’ll automatically get the latest issue in your inbox!

Now, don’t miss me too much. I’m sure we’ll have lots to talk about when I get back :)



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Weekend Reading: Good News for MBAs, Subsector-Switching, and Diversity vs. Philanthropic Freedom

June 26, 2010  |  Career Advice, Philanthropy  |  View Comments



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Here’s What Foundations Think About the New Florida Law Affecting Diversity in Philanthropy

June 25, 2010  |  Diversity, Philanthropy  |  View Comments

I had so many questions after hearing about this new legislation in Florida that I requested comment from several organizations regarding their position on advocacy efforts aimed at curtailing how much state and local governments can do to regulate foundations and their diversity practices.

First I asked some of the foundations who are members of the Florida Philanthropy Network, which is obviously in support of  the new legislation:

Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

“Our membership in the Florida Philanthropy Network does not constitute an endorsement of their activities on this legislation.”

“The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation believes that diversity and inclusion strengthen the charitable sector’s ability to address social inequities.

Within the foundation, we actively monitor the global diversity of our workforce and we have joined several affinity groups to increase targeted recruitment efforts and expand networking opportunities for current employees. Attracting, supporting, and developing a diverse, global workforce is critical to our impact.

The foundation pays membership dues and provides general operating support to a variety of national charitable sector associations. We also are members of regional grantmaker associations, such as the Florida Philanthropy Network, in states where we have significant programmatic activity.

We were not aware that the Florida Philanthropy Network was advocating for this legislation, and we were never asked to sign on to a letter of support or endorsement of any kind. Our membership in the Florida Philanthropy Network does not constitute an endorsement of their activities on this legislation.”

Jessie Ball duPont Fund

“The Jessie Ball duPont Fund is deeply committed to diversity and inclusiveness.”

From Jessie Ball duPont Fund President Sherry P. Magill:

“The Jessie Ball duPont Fund is deeply committed to diversity and inclusiveness, as evidenced by our grantmaking and our practices within our organization.  For the record, we were not aware of the Florida estate-tax-fix bill prior to its being signed by the governor.”

Then, I asked some of the top infrastructure organizations serving nonprofits and philanthropy. (I’d love to tell you what Independent Sector thinks, but they never got back to me.)

Council on Foundations

“We believe that voluntary leadership prevents legislative mandates.”

“The Council on Foundations has always encouraged voluntary leadership and proactive steps to achieve greater diversity and inclusion as well as transparency and accountability in our field. We believe this stand is right, and we believe that voluntary leadership prevents legislative mandates. Nothing about our commitment or strategy has changed.”

Foundation Center

“Greater transparency is the best defense of philanthropic freedom.”

“The Foundation Center does not take any formal stances on policy matters regarding the operation of foundations. But as a knowledge resource for the field, we believe that more information is better than less, and that greater transparency is the best defense of philanthropic freedom. By providing data to groups ranging from the Philanthropic Collaborative to the National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy and conducting research with foundations and regional associations, we are committed to helping philanthropy meet the challenges and opportunities of diversity.”

In reading between the lines, it sounds like these four groups are pretty much opposed to the new Florida law. Too bad they didn’t use their voices to speak up to let the bill’s supporters know before it was passed.

P.S. Join me on Monday, June 28 for a live discussion with Aaron Dorfman, Executive Director of the National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy, who agrees with me that the new Florida legislation is a major setback for philanthropy. Al Pina, Chair of the Florida Minority Community Reinvestment Coalition, will also be joining us.



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